A sound basis to Rotational Dynamics

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  • In this explanation Robtille attempts to construct the sun from condensed hydrogen , by a proton proton interaction. He specifically rules out electric field as causative, relying on the inherent concept of proton charge.

    What is this " charge"? First of all we need to identify the Boscovich atom! And then we can talk coherently about what charge is . I have suggested that charge is a frequency of rotation with a given phase and amplitude , it is a trochoidal rotational dynamic effect of pressure urfaces interacting .

    This I call simply magnetic behaviour, which makes charge in its simplest expression a magnetic phenomenon.

    The question about monopolat magnetic behaviour is a non question. Frequency and phase make up a multipolar dynamic, as we see often in lodestone . That these multiples interfere to produce a few dominant ones is to be expected , but to be confined to two is a signal of remarkable coherency.
  • edited April 15

    From the very outset the viewer is misdirected . All those laws are only apparently constant , electrons , charge etc are all unresolved concepts, the flow of a current , the direction of the current etc all analogies that obscure.
    Notice the astronauts report a slight vibration in the tether. Rotational dynamics of materials, especially lattices are simply ignored. .

    The relative motion of phase rotations are what we observe as electrons, cations anions and protons etc.

    Note how the power flows around materials . But sparks jump between bodies with different capacitance. When a person provides a boundary between a region of high power filled to its capacitance to hold that power, often called charge but as I say the resonating pressure variations of rotational dynamics , in that case , between a high power region and a low power region the person becomes a boundary that dynamically oscillates , and that at all the frequencies.

    That fixed boundary oscillation is lethal. When the boundary is not fixed, and the body can oscillate in coherence with the power frequencies this is not lethal because the body is adaptive , but capacitance differences can cause incoherent rotational dynamics . These can be disruptive or even trigger heart problems.

    The capacitance differences are what we traditionally observe as a charge flow, but what we can consider it as is transducing between regions of different rotational dynamics . It is that transducing that we call electric current and seek to explain not by phase changed
    S but by particle physics .

  • edited April 16

    These are rotational or torsion waves or Schwenken, pendula that are driven by the torsion disturbance in a tensile wire. The frequency of the disturbance in torsion is controlled by the pendula lengths. Metronomes work in an analogous fashion

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical-electrical_analogies
    This reference came up in a search for relationships between impedance and inertia. The wave phenomenon is not possible to explain without inertia. It is inertia that time limits a reaction to an impulse. And it is this time limit we perceive as a travelling disturbance .

    Whatever the disturbance the wave phenomenon is an inductive process within a medium which has inertial properties.

    http://engineering.nyu.edu/mechatronics/Control_Lab/Criag/Craig_RPI/2001/Physical_Modeling_Mechanical.pdf
    Some points to consider

    http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/4895692/?reload=true
    Indicating impedance and inertia are coupled concepts in dynamic systems
  • Maybe you like me thought that a wire was carrying a current, and the friction of that current caused it to get hot! Well we know that is not the case for small bore plumbing? The velocity of the flow increases in the small bore as the fluid transitions from a large bore feeder pipe. The tell tale knocking in the pipes betrays the pressure dynamics that are occuring
    It is these pressure dynamics which occur in a thin wire during a short circuit. The frequency of the oscillation is what is observed as heat and light and other radio wave and spark transmissions. What we are seeing is the overloading of the capacitance of the thin wire to contain the frequencies or support the frequencies the battery is putting out.

    Resistors, capacitors and inductance coils all modify the effects and support of the frequencies being established within a battery driven circuit .

    We think of a fluid by the analogy of a particle, whereas what we observe is turbulence or coherent dynamics in fluids. It should not surprise us then that liquids absorb vast ranges of frequencies and amplitudes and phases, as these are components of turbulence

    When a liquid boils we see the turbulent behaviour as larger phase and amplitude variations cohere " turbulently" . For a Leyden jar, or any electrolytic bath the frequencies and phases combine in material motion, only boiling when the amplitude of the battery creates a huge un supportable disturbance .
  • The open circuit impedance is a mystery in wave mechanics. One would expect a termination to reflect an inverse wave form, but I tstead a free end does this. The termination is thus not due to mechanical behaviour. What terminates is a wave guide for a magnetic rotation. Instead an environmental source not only counteracts the magnetic torsion it acts as a termination of it about the wire. It not only sends back a rotationa wave it exactly cancels the incident one out.
    Only when the power is strong enough will the magnetic rotation disturb the air quickly enough to create a spark that atcs to the nearest low impedance region . In the meantime the rotational dynamics creates filamentary sparks which are ephemeral.
  • edited April 17
    Inertial waves relate directly to magnetic disturbance transfer

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_wave


    In free space around a conductor/ inductor within a rotating frame like the earth , sun or any planetary system or galaxy


    Magnetic instability!

    Abstract. Sunspots are of basic interest in the study of the Sun. Their relevance ranges from them being an activity indicator of magnetic fields to being the place where coronal mass ejections and flares erupt. They are therefore also an important ingredient of space weather. Their formation, however, is still an unresolved problem in solar physics. Observations utilize just 2D surface information near the spot, but it is debatable how to infer deep structures and properties from local helioseismology. For a long time, it was believed that flux tubes rising from the bottom of the convection zone are the origin of the bipolar sunspot structure seen on the solar surface. However, this theory has been challenged, in particular recently by new surface observation, helioseismic inversions, and numerical models of convective dynamos. In this article we discuss another theoretical approach to the formation of sunspots: the negative effective magnetic pressure instability. This is a large-scale instability, in which the total (kinetic plus magnetic) turbulent pressure can be suppressed in the presence of a weak large-scale magnetic field, leading to a converging downflow, which eventually concentrates the magnetic field within it. Numerical simulations of forced stratified turbulence have been able to produce strong super- equipartition flux concentrations, similar to sunspots at the solar surface. In this framework, sunspots would only form close to the surface due to the instability constraints on stratification and rotation. Additionally, we present some ideas from local helioseismology, where we plan to use the Hankel analysis to study the pre-emergence phase of a sunspot and to constrain its deep structure and formation mechanism.
    Keywords. Sun: sunspots, Sun: magnetic fields, turbulence, helioseismology
    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.04062.pdf
  • When the rotational dynamics around and inductor/conductor meets the impedance of free space it experiences a dead stop. This is due to the inertial "gravity" or inertial magnetic restorative force within the Earth's magnetic dynamic .
    This magnetic dynamic not only provide a restorative force but it also provides a counterforce to the rotating force within the magnetic field around the conductor. Thus when a conductor is in free space and without a circuit connection then the restorative force makes the surrounding magnetic dynamic around the conductor sum to zero.

    When the circuit is closed then the restorative force in the environmental magnetic field is not able to enter into the circuit that is close with a battery. With a battery in a closed circuit the main driver for the magnetic rotating dynamic around the wire is the chemical or the dynamic rotating reactions taking place within the battery 

    In an open circuit free and terminates in the external magnetic field where as in a closed circuit the free and does not exist in the magnetic field around the wire originates and terminates in the battery. The conductor/inductor guides this magnetic rotating dynamic through the external magnetic dynamic . This is just another way of saying that the impedance in the circuit matches all the way through and therefore the magnetic dynamic maintains within that standard impedance. With the impedance changes in the magnetic dynamic changes
  • edited April 22
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_potential#
    I have had a chance to give this piece of mathematical explanation and theory a glance through. It is quite difficult to follow if you are anyway phased by the mathematical presentation.

    It simply says that if a current is placed in free space then it acts the same way as a magnetic field or magnetic potential vector called A.

    Theoretically A is no different to a current. When Lord Kelvin introduced the idea of a magnetic potential he made no distinction between the current and the magnetic effects of the Current. Of course this was a theoretical position. He simply made measurement of the potential at different places around a magnetic for a current carrying wire.

    The magnetic current carrying wire or the magnetic potential are derived from the measurements that were made around a magnetic current carrying wire. Mathematically whether it is a magnetic current or an electric is not in any way disputed. What is used isthe measurement around the experimental setup, which chiefly consist in a solenoid wire which can carry a current which is probably produced by a battery but maybe produced by a dynamo or generator. The difference between the electric current that is posited by theory and what is actually measured by measurements in practice is a fine points. We cannot make any real distinction between an electric current or a magnetic. We assume that there is a flow of things called electrons in wire, but we actually observe the behaviour of magnetic loops or magnetic effects around a wire in which an electric current is assumed.

    Lord Kelvin wrote his theory of madnesses in 1851. It was meant to be an updated version of Sir William Gilbert's magnetic theory. It was later followed by Maxwells theory of electromagnetsm colour which made use of Lord Kelvin's ideas including the magnetic potential. WhenHelmholtz and Hertz and Heaviside decided to make full use of Maxwells theory to explain electricity in one years and in circuits, they then got rid of the magnetic potential which Kelvin had made a big point that's it became gradually fashionable to discuss these matters not in terms of magnetic potential or magnetic current but in terms of electric current and electric fields. .

    The difficulty theoretically arises from the work of two people or three. Ampere and Biot/ Savot.. Of the 2 Ampere considered the internal behaviour with in a material and constructed little magnetic currents that flowed within material. In his idea the electric currents that flow in a set when made up of these little magnetic currents that flow within the wire which in turn were made up of some kind of circuit of material which produces a magnetic effect. The circuit is an unspecified but it could be considered to be an electric current is an electric current is established in the real world circuit.

    However Ampere left this part of the deconstruction undecided. Amperes hypothesis was that these little circuits flowed in a current with in a wire. It was Biot that decided to ignore what was flowing in a wire and just to use directed lines which went around a wire in which the current an electric current ŵas assumed.
    Later research is replaced on pairs little circuits with electrons only to find that this was an insufficient explanation of the development of magnetism around the wire. Eventually they replaced the electron as a particle with a electron that was spinning which therefore fulfilled Amperes frequirement of a circuit of some materiality.

    Lord Kelvin in choosing to define the magnetic potential was really acknowledging the fact that all measurements of electricity were based on the effect on a magnet. Therefore to decide what was electric and what was magnetic was not possible within the theoretical framework. Thus he decided to use the concept of a magnetic potential from which he could then derive the concept of an electric potential

    I woke this morning with the resolution to get rid of the idea of an electromagnetic spectrum and to instead consider the concept of a magnetic spectrum in which we start with magnetism followed by sound and then by heat and then by electric effects and then on to light ultraviolet light x-rays and gamma rays. within the region which I have loosely termed the electric of the affected week all radio and a microwave and other Electric effects.

    I express the view that electric effects are modes of magnetic behaviour in the frequency range between radio and microwave and light , but there is no sharp distinction between electric and other so called Electromagnetic behaviours of higher frequency.
  • Why use measurement rhetoric?

    Philosophically it is important to have decidability . Words and symbols are slippery but a physical Metron is concrete. A dynamic Metron like a metronome is less concrete but robust connections can be established with concrete metrons that are decide able. With these units we can establish a decide able process called counting or accounting. It is this process of accounting that is at the heart of the Stoikria.

    The pythagoreans established a constructive discourse that revealed what could be decided and what could not.
    The greek Mathema refers to this experimental, manipulation of concrete forms to decide things! It is often translated as scientific thinking.but the PIE roots indicate thinking and measuring by handling .

    We can decide certain things by counting and mathematics expresses those countable things precisely, in the main ( vide NJWildberger)

    In the end mathematics is of limited use in describing the cosmos if it ignores spaciometric and proprioception aspects of counting. This aspect is fundamental to the Pythagorean viewpoint or experience and is captured by the Kinesis Skesis duality of their discourse. The dynamics of development (elike) and thus change which encapsulates dynamic motion, are simply fundamentals of their thought and analysis. And thus their synthesis. Kinesis and Skesis usually in modern or classical expression are termed Kinetic and Static descriptions of a dynamic ever changing materiality.
    Panta Rhei
    And mathematics is pants if it loses connection with the Mathematikos, the person doing Astrological research .
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    Magnetic background to the solar system demonstrates Nasas reliance on magnetism not electricity to complement gravitational astronomy.


    Claridge explains about the double layer in plasma that flies in the face f the rule of thumb we get taught! Like charges collect together!( they do not repel but enter into a dynamic jostling of each other within a magnetic environment! They circulate or spiral amongst each other in free space.

    Opposite charges attract each other into a stable nul charge! The resultant is a spinning or rotational nul charge region or rather a trochoidally dynamic region.

    Magnets and magnetic dipoles are double layers within a crystalline structure. The magnetic influence is what we o serve and it generates the double layer from so called charges. The idea of charge is the Boscovich notion of force dynamic within his theory of force.

    Asserting that magnetic behaviour is fundamental, I also assert that trochoidally dynamic surfaces with variable phase, frequncy and amplitude are the best geometrical algebraic model of this fundamental behaviour.
    I assert no cause fir magnetic behaviour, only that it patently exists and is best described by trochoidal dynamics.

    It is these modes that I assert may be taken as represented by common terms like charge, particle, force,inertia, permittivity permeability and capacitance and inductance .

    These ideas applied to materiality distinguish the battery and chemical and field / atmosphere interactions that give out so called electric energy and capacitors and inductors and Hus any "double layered " device from each other .

    If we use the analogy of a flowing current let it first apply to a magnetic current and to all that such a flux carries and generates
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