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  • @boxerlego
    In the current regime you can quote the post, make the correction and repost. Then flag the old post and ask Martin to remove it .

    Very good point to highlight. This Cosmic Force is so ubiquitous that many discount it from their thinking, and yet the sun as an example of its power is best explained by magnetic behaviour! To focus on gravity, electric and nec,Lear weak and strong forces is to obscure the mysterious obvious : magnetic behaviour.
  • edited April 2
    boxerlego said:

    What your Observing with your PMH is in Eds Book on Page 13

    When Current Reverse they revers the magnet poles in the coil.
    So when you disconnect the Battery from the PMH the Currents are now Reverse and The poles on the PMH become the Opposite Polarity.
    This point deserves attention. When the PMH is fed with reversed electrical polarity, obviously it has the inverted magnetic poles.

    However, when it does not happen is switched off these: when you open the circuit the two coils by users become generators. The electrical polarity is inverted but the current always circulate in the same direction. It "should" circulates, because the circuit is open.

    In electrical engineering and in electrical measurements for a user component, the positive is where the current enters, the negative where it exits. For a generator instead is the opposite, the positive is where the current exits, the negative where it enters. Obviously, I speak of a single current, as we know the currents are two, said Ed.

    During shutdown the two coils, which are also two inductances, discharging. In discharging coils dump the current from what was negative, so that now becomes positive. And vice versa. This can be monitored with a voltmeter placed in parallel, which will show a sign change in tension. The current in the coils circulate always in the same direction as before.

    There is therefore no reversal of the magnetic poles at shutdown. If this happens, immediately disconnect the keeper. In the coming days I hope to get the video to explain better.

  • When I read Eds Statement I quoted above I usually think of the Collapsing Magnetic Field or Back EMF that has to do with the Polarity reversal in the coil.
  • edited April 2
    boxerlego said:

    When I read Eds Statement I quoted above I usually think of the Collapsing Magnetic Field or Back EMF that has to do with the Polarity reversal in the coil.

    I went to re-read that passage. It speaks of the use of a permanent magnet U-shaped and a coil for generating current... In that example Ed explains that in the inner stage from esternal to the prongs the current passes in one direction. Arrived at the center between the prongs is canceled and by the prongs to external (other side) changes polarity. This is also the reason why the alternating current that comes into our homes reverses polarity... Because rotating generators carry out a similar action 60 times a second... Or 50, as I have in europe.

    Even the coils of PMH produce two currents, when starting up and shutting down. Both of the opposite direction. However, the first current tries to win the supply current, but did not succeed. (It is opposed to the flux.) The second current tries to keep the magnetic flux that is disappearing. So the current in PMH always rotates in the same direction.
  • Jehovajah said:

    In the current regime you can quote the post, make the correction and repost. Then flag the old post and ask Martin to remove it .

    Well, as there are no more trolls here, we can maybe allow editing again. Or just extend the edit time.

  • boxerlego said:

    I got to make a correction with my previous post above, I didn't notice the error until this morning, What I should have wrote is When you Watch The Physicist in the Video you will see that when he hits The Bar that is align with the Earth's Magnetic Field with a Hammer It will align itself with Earth's Magnetic Field.

    @boxerlego You should be able to edit the original post now.

  • Thanks Martin, extending the time is a good idea. It clarifies the mind when one knows editing is limited!!

    The problem of spam and trolls does warrant this kind of restriction .

    With regard to my typos I hope the accessibility aids on my devices will help me minimise those too!
  • edited April 3
    Ed conceives of a magnetic current ( 2 intertwining currents) in the material. It is posited that electric behaviour if it is a current only penetrates the surface of a material! Slightly! . Thus an electric current if there is such flows in the dielectric material used to insulate!

    This is an important distinction because so called current flow within the conductor inductor is considered to be at a drift velocity no where near the speed of light!
    The electric behaviour outside the wire is depicted as dominant, although theoretically it in a 1:1 ratio with the magnetic behaviour . What appears to flow around the conductor inductor is called electromagnetism. The units that measure this are different in order of magnitude to electrostatic units, so that is another reason why electric representations might dominate.

    Now I do not think in terms of a current but rather in terms of standing wave oscillations with differing phases that consequently move relative to each other in a reciprocating way: alternating current!

    The establishment of this dynamic structure is thus a key moment as is the switching off and subsequent dying back or disestablishment of this structure .

    In this scenario, magnetism is the dominant behaviour with the surface effects being magnetism in a different mode dependent on frequency. The motion of ions within the material is secondary to the coherent oscillations they carry at near the speed of light or beyond.

    While Skymions are an obvious candidate for structuring these " ions" in material that has yet to be determined and requires materiality to be rethought . The atomistic point of view essentially has to be replaced by a Boscovichian force dynamic.
  • edited April 8
    Hello. Here I try to summarize my comments on the PMH after my experiments.

    The behavior of the PMH is absolutely regular in the ignition phase and when it is armed. At this stage all magnetic dipoles present in the U-shaped core and the keeper follow the direction induced by the magnetic flux that proceeds... So the North to the South and vice versa. This is evident in my photos posted by the verses of compasses.

    At shutdown a peculiar thing happens ... And here is the particularity of the phenomenon ... Some magnetic dipoles remain permanently aligned as forcing the magnetic flux. These represent a minority and involve the residual magnetization due to hysteresis. In all the material, both in the core that in the keeper the majority of magnetic dipoles return to their original natural posizion...

    Except in the vicinity of the junctions between the core and keeper.

    Exact. In the vicinity of the junctions remains a very similar orientation to that induced by the flux. And it is quite logical: the dipoles of the core can not return to their original position even if the keeper's dipoles do not. This leaves to look north against south in a joint and in the other south against the north. As it happens in an electrical capacitor. That's why in my photos compasses have the opposite direction. Because compasses feel the magnetic field in the keeper which was previously dominated by the flux. The compasses no longer indicate the flux direction, but the keeper's dipoles, which is contrary to that of the core. Until that keeper remains undisturbed the phenomenon is preserved indefinitely.

    When the keeper is removed the dipoles finally free tend to return (some) to their original position... This action, which takes place fast, involves within the core a magnetic backlash... This makes for an instant variation of the magnetic field in the core and to the law of Faraday-Neumann-Lenz a variation of the magnetic field corresponds to a variation of the voltage on the outside of the coils. This phenomenon lasts a moment, in that moment you turn on the light bulb.

    These are my conclusions ... That also corresponds to the video posted by @Barau_R_Tour where Gauss probe reveals very high magnetic fields in the vicinity of the nuts joints...

    These are my conclusions, tell me yours... Greetings.
  • edited April 10
    Some very nice observations .
    To demonstrate your explanation please use a very precise versorium, not a gauss meter . Establish a precision set up so distinctions can be confirmed , without moving the PMH .
    Have the power source and switch well away from the PMH and shield any wires magnetically.
    If possible de magnetise the iron core and keeper before each test run .
    Ensure that the test set up is aligned on the east west axis, and stand the PMH upright so the north seeking pole and the south seeking pole are in equilibrium with the earths polarity.

    Junctions as you may know are of crucial importance in electronic devices. Radio signals are detected by cat whisker junctions, semi conductor devices operate by thin crystal planar junctions, and so called electrostatic behaviour occurs in the surface region as active surface phenomena.
    My contention is that these are different modes of magnetic behaviour in materials.

    The notion of a current within a material as a particle flow is thus very questionable, un my opinion, but I observe a mass movement in fluids with low viscosity, and appreciate where Ampere was coming from in positing currents or "courantes".

    Magnetic particles, or dipole moments conceived as particles are also useful but questionable models, but they at least enable dynamic changes to occur by phase, frequency and amplitude of material disturbance.

    Within an electrical capacitor, ivor Catt has demonstrated a reciprocating voltage interaction , that in time dissipates in a step wise fashion . There is no decay signal( as expected) in his results, indicating that decay is possibly a quantised phenomenon as the capacitor discharges.

    While Ivor's work is phenomenally important the measurements he has made have in fact been done to a great deal of precision among the nuclear magnetic resonance people who of course promote their own favoured interpretation .

    As I have pointed out it favours a fundamental magnetic explanation but based on a supposed fundamental electric current cause! It is this cause I see as unnecessary because it can be understood as a mode of magnetic behaviour .
  • I am still interested to see the results of a proposed experiment.
    Set a Carr battery / battery in the east west latitude so that the positive is to the east and the negative is to the west.
    Take a wire ong enough to connect the terminals after a single loop with enough resistance so as to not short circuit the battery.
    Face the loop on the north south latitude. Check the polarity of the loop if the wire crosses in front or behind on that latitude., ie starting on the east loop the wire so that it comes to the south of the beginning of the loop before ending in the west .
    Do the same set up with the wire coming to the north of the beginning of the loop .

    Of course you may do as many loops as you wish to enhance the effect .
    Run a second set of observations with the loop containing a conducting metal core( iron , copper, aluminium, cobalt, nickel etc)

    Clearly you may run the observations changing the alignments of the battery and the loop .
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